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Post by hypercringe on Aug 5, 2010 19:04:52 GMT -5
You'd be surprised by how difficult it is to find pics of young Dannii online that are ready to be IMG'd. I wanted to do a career span thing, but most of the young pics were from when she was *really* young, and putting up a load of those would be creepy. And Dannii isn't Kylie Lite'. She's actually the darker, more mysterious, more underground version. Well that took 5 seconds And yes she is Kylie Lite as she did have a bit of an obsession to look like her sister and model her career after hers. We've been through this already but again you've employed Blinkers |
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Post by T. on Aug 5, 2010 19:09:16 GMT -5
I'm gonna find it difficult to argue about football, because I know fuck all about it, but isn't the Premier League the one the majority of UK fans care the most about? I know it's the one that the people who watch football for their looks care about. And wouldn't downplaying the looks lead to less media attention? And surely the media is what attracts a fair amount of people to football? I know plenty of girls in particular who got into it because of Beckham and Ronaldo and the rest of them and eventually came round to liking the sport itself, but that wouldn't have happened had they not looked at the girl celeb mags in the first place.
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Post by T. on Aug 5, 2010 19:14:01 GMT -5
You'd be surprised by how difficult it is to find pics of young Dannii online that are ready to be IMG'd. I wanted to do a career span thing, but most of the young pics were from when she was *really* young, and putting up a load of those would be creepy. And Dannii isn't Kylie Lite'. She's actually the darker, more mysterious, more underground version. Well that took 5 seconds And yes she is Kylie Lite as she did have a bit of an obsession to look like her sister and model her career after hers. We've been through this already but again you've employed Blinkers ...Why would I wanna use pics making fun of her surgery in an appreciation thread? If you can find decent, individual pics spanning from throughout her career then be my guest. You can't use botox to make yourself look like someone, and that's mainly what Dannii's had done. And they've always looked similar regardless. Kylie went into YTT and got famous after Dannii. Dannii was offered a place on H&A...she didn't campaign to get on the show in order to copy Kylie. And Dannii was always going to have a career in music regardless of whether Kylie chose that path, because music & entertainment was her thing. And I don't see Kylie going into musical theatre and doing major reality TV gigs. |
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Post by hypercringe on Aug 5, 2010 19:14:18 GMT -5
I'm gonna find it difficult to argue about football, because I know fuck all about it, but isn't the Premier League the one the majority of UK fans care the most about? I know it's the one that the people who watch football for their looks care about. And wouldn't downplaying the looks lead to less media attention? And surely the media is what attracts a fair amount of people to football? I know plenty of girls in particular who got into it because of Beckham and Ronaldo and the rest of them and eventually came round to liking the sport itself, but that wouldn't have happened had they not looked at the girl celeb mags in the first place. Well lets face it I doubt a large cross section of female fans give two hoots about team stats from 1956. Sadly when pressed for a reason for supporting their fav team you get answers like... 1) This guy is cute 2) I liked the colour of their uniforms 3) Cause this is my dad's or bf's or hubby's fav team |
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Post by T. on Aug 5, 2010 19:18:32 GMT -5
Most male fans have similar reasons though.
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Post by hypercringe on Aug 5, 2010 19:19:43 GMT -5
...Why would I wanna use pics making fun of her surgery in an appreciation thread? If you can find decent, individual pics spanning from throughout her career then be my guest. You can't use botox to make yourself look like someone, and that's mainly what Dannii's had done. And they've always looked similar regardless. Kylie went into YTT and got famous after Dannii. Dannii was offered a place on H&A...she didn't campaign to get on the show in order to copy Kylie. And Dannii was always going to have a career in music regardless of whether Kylie chose that path, because music & entertainment was her thing. And I don't see Kylie going into musical theatre and doing major reality TV gigs. Nose job and facial reconstruction don't usually come in a package deal with botox, and no they didn't look alike if you looked at pics from the early 90s you'd know. Girlie pop schtick Gay schtick Dark mysterious schtick Underground/Indie schtick Raver/Dance schtick Kylie did it all first as was shameless Reality TV plug/scandal and commercial TV soap opera. And it took my 5 seconds to find that pic and it was one of many, so really you probably didn't try very hard. |
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Post by BigFaker on Aug 5, 2010 19:20:08 GMT -5
I'm gonna find it difficult to argue about football, because I know fuck all about it, but isn't the Premier League the one the majority of UK fans care the most about? No, it's the big one, the most important one, the top league, but that doesn't make it the most cared about or followed. There are 3 leagues below that, and then countless conference leagues below them. The Premiership only has 20 teams (And a lot of them don't pull in an average crowd attendance as soon of the Championship teams), The Championship, League One, and League two all have 24 each. I'm too tired to get the actual stats, but for arguments sake lets say theres 1.2 million fans of twams in the Prem, then you're talking at least 5m fans of teams below the Prem I'd estimate. I know it's the one that the people who watch football for their looks care about. And wouldn't downplaying the looks lead to less media attention? Not really, the interest has and most likely always will be there because of the millions of people who want to tune in and watch a game because their fans or have a vested interest (Shouldn't forget the gamblers) in the game. The media then handpicks it's golden stars, whether they're attractive or not is indifferent as if you're told someone is goodlooking so much and get it thrown at you constantly you'll believe it. Yes, but there were others before these that girls went mad about. Gary Speed -  Ryan Giggs  - (Infact Posh Spice fancied Giggs and was hoping to meet him before she hooked up with Beckham) And so on, the media can and will always create their golden boys. |
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Post by hypercringe on Aug 5, 2010 19:21:31 GMT -5
Most male fans have similar reasons though. Doubt that one, unless of course ballet of the field is even gayer than originally thought |
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Post by T. on Aug 5, 2010 19:28:37 GMT -5
They so do. They've were as close facially as they are at this point. Dannii's eyes have always been bigger and wider, but aside from that they have similar face structures.
I don't see Kylie doing Notre Dame de Paris. I don't see her playing a major role in the most popular TV show in the UK. In terms of music, Dannii did what was popular at the time. So did Kylie. It's not a case of Dannii copying Kylie, it's a case of her doing her best to be successful. Which worked.
Why would I lie about that? Search if you like, but I know it was hard for me to find decent pictures of early Dannii. It was all 2000+ or blonde Dannii.
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Post by T. on Aug 5, 2010 19:29:54 GMT -5
Most male fans have similar reasons though. Doubt that one, unless of course ballet of the field is even gayer than originally thought Bar the first one. Most people either seem to go with the team that their family's like, or the one that appeals to them visually. Or the team that is doing the best at that point, depending on whether or not they're a glory hunter. |
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Post by T. on Aug 5, 2010 19:32:13 GMT -5
I'm gonna find it difficult to argue about football, because I know fuck all about it, but isn't the Premier League the one the majority of UK fans care the most about? No, it's the big one, the most important one, the top league, but that doesn't make it the most cared about or followed. There are 3 leagues below that, and then countless conference leagues below them. The Premiership only has 20 teams (And a lot of them don't pull in an average crowd attendance as soon of the Championship teams), The Championship, League One, and League two all have 24 each. I'm too tired to get the actual stats, but for arguments sake lets say theres 1.2 million fans of twams in the Prem, then you're talking at least 5m fans of teams below the Prem I'd estimate. Not really, the interest has and most likely always will be there because of the millions of people who want to tune in and watch a game because their fans or have a vested interest (Shouldn't forget the gamblers) in the game. The media then handpicks it's golden stars, whether they're attractive or not is indifferent as if you're told someone is goodlooking so much and get it thrown at you constantly you'll believe it. Yes, but there were others before these that girls went mad about. Gary Speed - Ryan Giggs - (Infact Posh Spice fancied Giggs and was hoping to meet him before she hooked up with Beckham) And so on, the media can and will always create their golden boys. Oh. Shows how much I know. But still, the media is powerful and all, but girls n gays aren't going to manipulated into obsessing over people with messed up, bloody faces, which was the original point, I think. |
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Post by hypercringe on Aug 5, 2010 19:36:40 GMT -5
They so do. They've were as close facially as they are at this point. Dannii's eyes have always been bigger and wider, but aside from that they have similar face structures. I don't see Kylie doing Notre Dame de Paris. I don't see her playing a major role in the most popular TV show in the UK. In terms of music, Dannii did what was popular at the time. So did Kylie. It's not a case of Dannii copying Kylie, it's a case of her doing her best to be successful. Which worked. Why would I lie about that? Search if you like, but I know it was hard for me to find decent pictures of early Dannii. It was all 2000+ or blonde Dannii. Amazing you claim to find photos from the 90s to prove they look similar but you can't find any to link to...interesting. So now you're even calling Dannii a liar? Cause she has said it herself and then of course gone on to contradict herself later but that's just what she does. So Dannii went through a blonde phase and decided to do some risque to artsy nudes.... hmmm I wonder who did that first |
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Post by BigFaker on Aug 5, 2010 19:41:03 GMT -5
No, it's the big one, the most important one, the top league, but that doesn't make it the most cared about or followed. There are 3 leagues below that, and then countless conference leagues below them. The Premiership only has 20 teams (And a lot of them don't pull in an average crowd attendance as soon of the Championship teams), The Championship, League One, and League two all have 24 each. I'm too tired to get the actual stats, but for arguments sake lets say theres 1.2 million fans of twams in the Prem, then you're talking at least 5m fans of teams below the Prem I'd estimate. Not really, the interest has and most likely always will be there because of the millions of people who want to tune in and watch a game because their fans or have a vested interest (Shouldn't forget the gamblers) in the game. The media then handpicks it's golden stars, whether they're attractive or not is indifferent as if you're told someone is goodlooking so much and get it thrown at you constantly you'll believe it. Yes, but there were others before these that girls went mad about. Gary Speed - Ryan Giggs - (Infact Posh Spice fancied Giggs and was hoping to meet him before she hooked up with Beckham) And so on, the media can and will always create their golden boys. Oh. Shows how much I know. But still, the media is powerful and all, but girls n gays aren't going to manipulated into obsessing over people with messed up, bloody faces, which was the original point, I think. the media is powerful no doubt about it. And the girls and gays thing, I suppose it really depends on the individual really, different strokes for different folks and all that. Paddy has quite the female following from some of the Leeds lasses, my girlfriend included |
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Post by hypercringe on Aug 5, 2010 19:42:26 GMT -5
Oh. Shows how much I know. But still, the media is powerful and all, but girls n gays aren't going to manipulated into obsessing over people with messed up, bloody faces, which was the original point, I think. the media is powerful no doubt about it. And the girls and gays thing, I suppose it really depends on the individual really, different strokes for different folks and all that. Paddy has quite the female following from some of the Leeds lasses, my girlfriend included There has got to be some market for bruises, blood and even cauliflower ears as rugby still exists |
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Post by T. on Aug 5, 2010 19:44:45 GMT -5
They so do. They've were as close facially as they are at this point. Dannii's eyes have always been bigger and wider, but aside from that they have similar face structures. I don't see Kylie doing Notre Dame de Paris. I don't see her playing a major role in the most popular TV show in the UK. In terms of music, Dannii did what was popular at the time. So did Kylie. It's not a case of Dannii copying Kylie, it's a case of her doing her best to be successful. Which worked. Why would I lie about that? Search if you like, but I know it was hard for me to find decent pictures of early Dannii. It was all 2000+ or blonde Dannii. Amazing you claim to find photos from the 90s to prove they look similar but you can't find any to link to...interesting. So now you're even calling Dannii a liar? Cause she has said it herself and then of course gone on to contradict herself later but that's just what she does. So Dannii went through a blonde phase and decided to do some risque to artsy nudes.... hmmm I wonder who did that first There's a massive 'Years of Dannii' album thing. I just can't get direct links to the pictures. And again, why would I lie about that? Link? Yes, because Kylie was the first person to do that. |
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Post by hypercringe on Aug 5, 2010 19:47:10 GMT -5
Amazing you claim to find photos from the 90s to prove they look similar but you can't find any to link to...interesting. So now you're even calling Dannii a liar? Cause she has said it herself and then of course gone on to contradict herself later but that's just what she does. So Dannii went through a blonde phase and decided to do some risque to artsy nudes.... hmmm I wonder who did that first There's a massive 'Years of Dannii' album thing. I just can't get direct links to the pictures. And again, why would I lie about that? Link? Yes, because Kylie was the first person to do that. Well then I'd have to say your search engine sucks She was the first of the two, but even Kylie was forced to admit it was because of Madonna. |
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Post by T. on Aug 5, 2010 19:51:59 GMT -5
I use Google.
So they copied Madonna, much like many singers. Dannii going blonde and doing sexy photoshoots doesn't equal 'trying to be Kylie'.
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Post by hypercringe on Aug 5, 2010 19:57:47 GMT -5
I use Google. So they copied Madonna, much like many singers. Dannii going blonde and doing sexy photoshoots doesn't equal 'trying to be Kylie'. Not on its own, no but when combined with everything else kinda does point to the yes side of the argument especially when you do magazine interviews and say it as such. |
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Post by T. on Aug 5, 2010 20:00:09 GMT -5
I don't get why you hate Dannii. It's very un-Australian of you, and she's so wonderful. And she just had a baby, which means you should really be nice.
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Post by hypercringe on Aug 5, 2010 20:05:15 GMT -5
I don't get why you hate Dannii. It's very un-Australian of you, and she's so wonderful. And she just had a baby, which means you should really be nice. When did I say I hate Dannii Minogue? Obviously you never lived in Australia when she decided she needed some media attention. And your final statement is utterly meaningless apart from highlighting your unhealthy hero worship as I don't think she is going to care either way what is said on this forum. |
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Post by T. on Aug 5, 2010 20:28:55 GMT -5
It's not nice to hate people, whether they can see it or not.
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Post by Queen of the Damned on Aug 5, 2010 20:34:49 GMT -5
I don't get why you hate Dannii. It's very un-Australian of you, and she's so wonderful. And she just had a baby, which means you should really be nice. When did I say I hate Dannii Minogue? Obviously you never lived in Australia when she decided she needed some media attention. And your final statement is utterly meaningless apart from highlighting your unhealthy hero worship as I don't think she is going to care either way what is said on this forum. I must agree that celebrity hero worship is very unhealthy . . . |
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Post by hypercringe on Aug 5, 2010 20:34:54 GMT -5
It's not nice to hate people, whether they can see it or not.  That was feeble As I don't hate Dannii Minogue, I just think its a sad state of affairs when people can be so blinded by media hype. The Dannii Minogue BS media storm has been going on since she left Home & Away. |
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Post by T. on Aug 5, 2010 20:37:04 GMT -5
I think she's a lovely person, and she's been through a lot. Rather hero worship someone like that than a horrible, selfish celeb.
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Post by b_Pooly on Aug 5, 2010 20:39:09 GMT -5
When did I say I hate Dannii Minogue? Obviously you never lived in Australia when she decided she needed some media attention. And your final statement is utterly meaningless apart from highlighting your unhealthy hero worship as I don't think she is going to care either way what is said on this forum. I must agree that celebrity hero worship is very unhealthy . . . yes, and caren't what they do is just plain sad. |
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Post by hypercringe on Aug 5, 2010 20:41:29 GMT -5
I think she's a lovely person, and she's been through a lot. Rather hero worship someone like that than a horrible, selfish celeb. Okay please do tell us this 'a lot' she has been through |
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Post by T. on Aug 5, 2010 20:48:03 GMT -5
Up until about a year ago her career has basically consisted of the media calling her fat, unattractive and bitter.
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Post by hypercringe on Aug 5, 2010 20:53:06 GMT -5
Up until about a year ago her career has basically consisted of the media calling her fat, unattractive and bitter.  Are you trying to fill the void left by Mal and Fizzle? You could at least have mentioned her divorce, her financial woes, her sister having cancer. |
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Post by T. on Aug 5, 2010 20:56:15 GMT -5
I was going to, but you'd turn that around on me by saying something like the marriage was just her whoring herself, and that Kylie's cancer was Kylie's problem.
I could have also mentioned the horrible AIDS incident, the BNP thing and her best friend having cancer at the same time as Kylie.
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Post by hypercringe on Aug 5, 2010 21:00:01 GMT -5
I was going to, but you'd turn that around on me by saying something like the marriage was just her whoring herself, and that Kylie's cancer was Kylie's problem. I could have also mentioned the horrible AIDS incident, the BNP thing and her best friend having cancer at the same time as Kylie. yeah sure you were but you didn't. I had to do if for you. |
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